Water The Biggest Challenge
18 March 2006
Report of the Panel Discussion
 

Panellists: Mr. Ramaswamy R. Iyer, Mr. P.R. Chari, Dr. Subhash Chandra & Mr. Umesh Agarwal.

Reported by

Adil Hasan Khan, Research Intern, IPCS

Introductory Remarks

Mr. DR Kaarthikeyan

 

For today's Panel discussion, we have chosen the all-important subject of 'Water: The Biggest Challenge'. It is because in another 20 years 'water wars' are being predicted, not only between states but also between nations. Water is the most precious resource without which life on earth cannot exist. It has become an issue of major concern for today's governments and tomorrow's planners. It is a valuable resource like energy which is too frequently squandered. Fresh and clean water is getting scarcer day by day.

Most of the water on earth is not fresh water that can be easily accessed. Even this minor amount of accessible fresh water is getting polluted and contaminated. Most government water utilities are making the same mistakes with water that they made with energy by depleting non-renewable supplies, using the highest quality water for all uses, supplying more instead of making more productive use of what they have, building big water infrastructure systems without considering what is the best size for the job and failing to protect and take advantage of the services ecosystems provide. These approaches are getting to be increasingly unaffordable and harmful to the environment. It has been forecast that some countries including South Africa and India, risk running out of water in the next twenty five years and that this century will see 'water wars' being fought.

Unsustainable use of water in agriculture is one of the greatest challenges facing India's economic development. More than one billion people currently lack access to safe drinking water and three billion people lack access to basic sewage systems all over the world. Over the next 25 years, one third of the world's population will face severe water scarcity. According to projections made by Population Action International, a non-profit policy advocacy group that is working to strengthen public awareness, more than 2.8 billion people in 48 countries will be facing water stress or scarcity by the year 2025. By 2050, the water-short-countries will go up to 54, affecting nearly 4 billion or 40 percent of the projected global population at that time.

Things look no better for India. The per capita annual availability of water in 1951 was 5177 cubic meters but it has now come down to 1061 cubic meters and could further fall. The minimum per capita requirement is assessed as 1700 cubic meters per annum. It could get worse simply because water in India is considered everybody's right but nobody's responsibility. The supply network is crumbling with many of the water lines getting contaminated by sewage lines, slum lords controlling the distribution of water in many places and large parts of the population being unwilling to pay enough to pay even for the operating cost.

India's complex bureaucratic structure does not help matters either. While providing drinking water to villages is the responsibility of the Ministry of Rural Development, drinking water for cities and towns comes under the purview of the Ministry for Housing and Urban Development, while the Ministry of Water Resources is responsible for surface and groundwater and also supra projects such as linking of rivers. So there is hardly any coordination between various departments. If India does not get its act together, according to experts, its next civil war could be fought over water. Even the World Bank has asked India to wake up on the water front, by warning of a severe crisis in the next two decades in this regard.

The objective of this panel discussion, line many other conferences on this subject is to help policymakers at all levels in addressing their water challenges in areas such as sustainable groundwater management, water scarcity, irrigation, poverty elimination, surface water resource management, industrial waste management, water quality management etc.

Managing water scarcity effectively is one of the great imperatives of governance today. Even In more prosperous countries, water scarcity curtails economic growth and diminishes quality of life. In poorer countries it breeds sickness, blocks development, deepens inequalities and undermines the survival of an entire society. How to regulate the informal water sector, how to improve the productivity of rain water, how to manage running water? In short, how to improve the quality and deal with the scarcity of water. The heart of the problem in most of the water-scarce-countries is too many people living off a limited natural resource base. More efficient usage is part of the answer, while the other is generating livelihoods not directly dependant on water. On this subject we chose some eminent personalities to come and talk to us, to share their experiences and what they think are the solutions.

Professor Ramswamy Iyer has served the Government of India in many capacities. He was Secretary Water Resources, member Public Enterprises Selection Board, Research Professor in Centre for Policy Research, member of India's National Commission on Integrated Water Resource Planning, consultant to the World Bank, as member of two World Bank Missions to the Government of Thailand, for the World Commission on Dams for a study on India's experience with large dams, with the World Bank in its review of the water sector strategy, International Water Management Institute, Colombo. He is also the author of many books and over a hundred articles on the subject.

Mr. Chari, is very well known for establishing the Institute of Peace and Conflict Studies and is a former member of the Indian Administrative Service. Chief Executive of the Narmada Development Authority was his last position in the Government. He has worked as a Visiting Fellow in the University of Illinois and is now the director and Research Professor at the Institute of Peace and Conflict Studies. He has worked extensively on nuclear disarmament, non-proliferation and Indian defence issues. He has published over 1,200 articles and has published several books. He is also a member of the international consortium to study bio-defence against the threat of biological weapons.

Shri R.K. Pachauri, Chairman TERI and Chairman India Habitat World had to suddenly go Abroad on an urgent mission and hence has conveyed his regrets for his inability to be with us this evening. However, he had requested Prof. Subash Chander to be with us this evening. He was happy for my organising the panel discussion on this most vital subject.

Professor Subhash Chander is a teacher, researcher, consultant and administrator. He has handled 15 doctoral projects and 20 consultancy projects in hydrology and water resources. Published nearly hundred papers in all major journals in hydrology and water resources. Life member of the Indian association of hydrologists, Deputy Director of I.I.T. Delhi, advisor Delhi School of Advanced Studies, advisor Inter-State Water Sources, member expert group on Interlinking of Rivers Project.

Mr. Umesh Agarwal has been producing and directing more than thousand hours of television programming. Currently producing a film for the National Geographic. He directs a daily show called 'Kiran: A Ray of Hope' for the national broadcaster of India. He will be screening a short documentary film titled 'The Whistle Blowers' for us.

Mr Ramsawamy Iyer
I would like to make two preliminary observations to put matters into perspective. The first is that we have grossly mismanaged our water resources, whether in agriculture, industry or domestic use or municipal use. The second proposition is that water is a very complex phenomenon. People regard water in various ways, as an economic good or a commodity or as a life support resource or as a basic right, human right or as a national resource, namely the property of governments or as a sacred resource, as a part of culture, as a part of history. From these divergent perceptions you get divergent recommendations.

During the last decade and a half, water has become a very important subject. There are a huge number of international conferences regarding water, a very large number of academic institutions all over the world are conducting seminars on this issue and the general consensus is that there is a looming crisis on the horizon. With the pressure of growing population and with the processes of economic development and so on, the pressure on the water resources is going to be enormous because the water resources are finite. What you find in nature today is what existed thousands and thousands of years ago, it has not changed. The supply is finite and the demand is growing, there is going to be serious pressure on this and as the Chairman mentioned earlier, there is a theory floated by Ismael Seageldin of the World Bank that the next war is going to be about water. I don't subscribe to this theory about 'water wars'. It will take too much time to explain why, but I think it is based on a very fallacious analogy with oil.

However there is no doubt that the future is going to be difficult and faced with this prognosis of a difficult future, there are three kinds of recommendations which people make. One is by bureaucrats, planners, engineers and so on, that the demand is going to increase, so more supply should be organised, like in any other industrial or consumer goods that you project a future demand and you try and match it with supply. That means you build a large number of big projects, dams and reservoirs or projects long distance water transfers. The government of India subscribes to this belief. In their reply to the World Commission on Dams in November 2000, they rejected the report, they rejected the recommendations of the World Commission on Dams and they said that we have done pretty well so far and we shall continue to follow the same path and in the next 25 years we are going to build 200 billion cubic meters of storage, which means building big dams and reservoirs. Later, sometime in 2002, the Government of India announced its mega-project of interlinking of rivers, which is really meant for transfer of water over long distances.

The other response is by the World Bank, ADB, international financial organizations and our own liberal economists. This is that water is a commodity like any other commodity; therefore it should be left to the market. The market forces will make supply emerge in response to demand, fix prices properly. The market forces will resolve conflicts and everything will be fine. The third is by a group people representing the civil society, who argue that water is a basic life support substance, therefore a basic need. It is a fundamental right, as a part of the fundamental right to life, in our legal system through judicial interpretation. It has been recognised in the UN system as a human right. Therefore it is and ought to remain a common property resource, subject to community management.

Now, is there going to be a crisis? In answering this question, I have an extremely difficult dilemma to face. Namely, that if I say that if a talk of a crisis is overstated and exaggerated, then I maybe suspected of contributing to complacency and turning down the anxiety levels, which is not what I want to do. I want the anxiety levels to remain as they are. At the same I do believe that the predictions of a crisis are not necessarily true. What I am saying is roughly what the National Commission on Integrated Water Source Development Plan said in its report in 1999. It said that the situation is going to be one of difficulty but not necessarily one of crisis, provided that certain things are done.

Now why do I question the prognostication of a crisis? A crisis is projected on the basis of two numbers, a demand number and a supply number. The national commission projected the availability of water. The precipitation or rainfall over the Indian landmass is 4,000 Billion Cubic Meters or Cubic Kilometres (BCM). The availability of waters at the turning points of the river system is 1,953 BCM, the rest of it either evaporates or goes underground. There is also groundwater availability of 453 BCM. This available water does not mean that all of it is available for use. There is another category called the usable water. The usable water is said to be, according to the National Commission, 690 BCM of surface water and 396 BCM of groundwater, making a total of 1086 BCM. That is what is going to be available and that is not going to change. As against this they made projections for demand, for agricultural use, for industrial use, for domestic use, municipal use and for maintaining certain minimum flows in rivers, looking after the environmental concerns etc. They came with two estimates, a low estimate and a high estimate, ranging from 9,70 to 1,170 BCM. So even the lower estimate is closer to what they project as available and the higher estimate slightly exceeds it. Therefore they said that this is going to be difficult, but manageable, provided a number of things are done.

Since the predictions of crisis follows from these two numbers, the demand number needs to be looked at very carefully. I started with the proposition that we mismanage water in every use, I revert to that. In agriculture, according to the National Commission, the efficiency of water use is very low; they put it between 35 to 40 percent. The yields are very low, from irrigated agriculture in the year 2050, the National Commission Projects a yield of only 4 tonnes per hectare. Higher yields are being produced in the country in some other places and certainly much higher yields are being produced in other countries. Now if you improve efficiency in water use in agriculture, minimise wastage in agriculture and increase the yield from irrigated agriculture, your overall projection of water demand for agricultural purposes may come down. Secondly you take Industry; our industrial use is very wasteful. In other countries in the world industries keep using the same water over and over again, we don't do that. Even the National Commission in its future projections by 2050 makes only a very modest projection of a 20 percent improvement in industrial usage of water. This is really unacceptable, what we ought to be aiming at not immediately, but in the distant future is regime under which you don't keep giving water to the industry, you give it only once and insist on their using it multiple times, giving only enough to make up whatever is lost in this process. Ninety percent of industrial water should come from reuse. If you do that, you projection of industrial demand for water will also come down.

Then we come to water supply, particularly in urban metropolis's like Delhi, Bombay etc. What we are doing is that we have a norm, we project future requirements by adopting a norm of 140 litres per capita per day in urban areas and 70 litres per capita per day in rural areas. You multiply this by the projected population increase and you get huge numbers. Not only that, the National Commission says that even these figures should be increased to 200 and 140 respectively, as a result you get simply enormous numbers. What happens is that today, in fact in Delhi, the Delhi Jal Board, is supplying more than 200 litres per capita per day, which is higher than any other city in India. What happens is that this 200 litres per capita per day is average, and thus there are areas in Delhi which get less than 30 litres per capita per day and there are areas in Delhi where people are using 500 litres per capita per day. Clearly, if you give more to the people who are using just 30 litres and bring down the use of those using 500 litres, you may not need add to the additional water supplies. Actually there are many European cities which are revising their norms for water supply downwards. Now, admittedly, the conditions are different in India, but never the less, there is a figure by a man called Peter Glickwood, a great authority on this, who has projected what is called BWR, basic water requirement for drinking, cooking, washing of 50 litres per capita per day. Now you add something more to it for cleaning your house and various other things but you really do not need more than 100 litres per capita per day. We have to bring down the excess use of water by the affluent, partly through pricing, pricing above a level use ought to be penal and above a certain level of use, it ought to be denied. I know I am not offering simple solutions, these are politically extremely difficult but faced with the predication of a water crisis, we have to adopt harsh measures. If you do this, your municipal demand will also be reduced.

Then you have the enormous generation of waste in all our urban centres. There is waste in industry, there is waste in agriculture, waste in the domestic/municipal use and very little of it is treated. In the first place, we have to reduce this generation of waste and secondly we have to recover as much of it as possible. This waste water must be recovered, processed and reused for certain purposes. If you do all of these things and then add up the total you may not get 970 or 1170 BCM as demand figures, you may get 800 or 700 BCM, which maybe a much more manageable number.
On the supply side, there are only three possibilities. Even with all your demand management, you may still need to augment your usable supply of water to some extent. One possibility is building big projects, dams reservoirs, long distance water transfers. The other is exploiting groundwater, extracting it through bore-wells, tube-wells and using it. The third is extensive local augmentation of availability through water harvesting and watershed development. Now all these are problematic. We all know the adverse impacts and consequences of big projects, displacements, environmental impacts etc. Not all of them are foreseeable, not all of them are remediable and though we cannot rule out big projects, it makes sense to minimise recourse to big projects. But I do not need to elaborate that, as that is a well known story, there have been big movements against big projects. But take groundwater, starting from the 1980's there was a explosion of groundwater usage for agriculture, today groundwater is a much more significant driver of agriculture than surface water and certainly it has produced dramatic results in the short run. At the same time it has created serious problems, as it is running down the groundwater aquifers and polluting and contaminating them and has virtually run many aquifers dry in many parts of the country. The great authority on the subject is Dr. Tushar Shah and he has been talking about a colossal anarchy. At the same time it very difficult to regulate this because there are 21 million tube wells in the country and mostly for private supplies, they are not linked to public supply systems. But we cannot let this go on, we have to somehow find ways and means of restraining this.

Then we come to water-harvesting and watershed development. We have had a number of success stories. We started with Anna Hazare's Raley gaon siddhi , there is the work in Rajasthan by Tarun Bhagat Sangh and Rajinder Singh, and about 500 villages are covered. In the south there is the Dhan foundation that is working in three of the southern states, trying to restore the old tank systems which have gone into disrepair and the benefits are quite clear. At the same time people have started sounding alarm bells about this system as well. As you intercept water in the upper catchments, downstream of that, in the next village there maybe a shortage. You are reducing the run-off, you are interfering with the hydrological cycle. Obviously, we cannot rule out big projects because of displacement and environmental impacts, rule out groundwater because we are running down the aquifers, rule out water harvesting and watershed development because of these upstream and downstream consequences. So we have to do all these three things but in a wise and prudent combination. What we have been doing in the past is to give priority to the big projects and treat these local civil society-led, community- led water harvesting and watershed development, as secondary and supplementary. My own view is that you have to reverse this. You have to treat water harvesting and water shed management as primary and treat the big projects as secondary or projects of the last resort. What I mean by projects of the last resort is that for any given situation for any given area we have to look at all the possible alternatives and choose the best. If in any given area, a big project or bringing water from another area is the best option or is the only available option, then of course you have to do it. However this is the kind of stringent evaluation that we have not applied so far and it needs to be applied.
I don't want to discuss the privatization issue because it will take too much time, but let me make only a small distinction. There is a confusing use of the word "right". We talk about the right to water, at the same time economists and the World Bank etc. talk about water-rights. Water rights and the right to water are two different things. When you are talking about the right to water, you are talking about a fundamental right or a human right, life support, without which you cannot exist. When you are talking about water rights, you are talking about economic rights, irrigation, industry etc., but it is not a fundamental right. The World Bank has gone one step further, and is talking about property rights. What they are saying is that define water rights and allow trading and all problems will be solved. Unfortunately what they are trying to do is to transfer the argument for privatization from industrial and commercial goods to water. But the analogy does not hold. Water is not like soap or cement or fertilizer. If you don't get some of the industrial goods you make do without them or find an alternative. You cannot do without water and there is no alternative for water.

Secondly, you can say that we should not privatize the resource but we can privatize the service. Instead of your municipality supplying you with water, a private company can supply it to you. Superficially this seems alright but in fact this is very difficult to separate privatization of a service from the privatization of a resource because you do have to entrust some degree of control over the resource to some private supplier. If you allow a private supplier to put up a dam, as for instance, S. Kumar's were allowed to take on this Maheshwar project. So you have allocate resources to them, control over natural resource has to be given to them so that they can supply. I will not elaborate on this but there are a number of difficult issues that are involved in corporate control over natural resources. You have a couple of very well known examples. You have Shivnath in Chattisgarh, where 20 km. of this river Shivnath was leased out to this private corporate entity for water supply purposes. Of course there was public outcry against it, so the government tried to cancel it but they found certain legal difficulties, so that is an unresolved issue. Then you have another dispute in Kerala in Palchimada, where Coca-Cola was given bottling rights of a certain capacity. They put half a dozen power driven bore-wells and as a result the water in the surrounding areas, in the villages, ran dry. These villagers went to court and won the first round in the district court. The judge pronounced a public trust doctrine, stating that water is held by the government in a public trust, not to be given away to a corporate entity. Unfortunately that got turned over by a Division Bench of the High Court and now the case is before the Supreme Court and we do not know what the outcome is going to be. So there are a number of difficult issues here but unfortunately in dealing with these matters we face a very muddled legal system. We have in the Kerala Court, the district judge pronouncing a Public Trust Doctrine but it is not there in our laws. We have to introduce it. We have, broadly speaking, two things, the State Governments claim control and ownership over surface water resources, they claim what we refer to in legal parlance as "eminent domain" over water. In fact in Rajasthan a dispute arose because of this when the local villagers managed build some Bunds and Check Dams and regenerated some long dry rivers and streams, the State came along and said that every drop of rain that falls on the State belongs to the State and if you try to intercept it you are committing an illegality. They wanted to arrest and put Rajinder Singh in jail and it was prevented by a group of eminent persons who went and talked to the Chief Minister, but the issue is still unresolved. To whom does the water belong? If as a result of community-led initiatives we are able to regenerate some water, do you have some rights over that water or it immediately goes back to the bureaucrat for him to allocate to anybody else. Another difficulty is that you regenerate this water, the water level rises and downstream of you there is a rich fellow, who sets up this bore-well and sucks out all the water that you have generated. Unfortunately under our law, while the State claims ownership and control over surface water, ownership of groundwater vests in the ownership of land and under law there is no limit on how much water the owner of the land can extract. He can install a very powerful bore-well which makes the dug wells of the poor farmer nearby dry. Not only that, he will sell this water to that farmer who is also sitting on that aquifer. Whose water is being sold to whom? So these are extremely complex legal issues and we need a comprehensive legal reform. The community initiatives are not backed by Indian law today.

In a paper I wrote recently I made certain recommendations as to what we ought to be doing in relation to water. Drawing the various threads, that I have mentioned, together, it is clear that water is among the most important problems facing this country.

1. A major national effort, a multi-pronged national campaign or movement on water, encompassing not only the government but also the civil society, is called for. Amongst other things, this movement will have to restrain and manage demand within availability, promote efficiency and economy in water use and resource conservation and foster a consciousness of scarce and a precious resource.

2. Facilitate the prevention or quick resolution of conflicts.

3. Promote rainwater harvesting and micro watershed development through out the country, to the extent technically feasible, without adverse effects.

4. Some large projects may still be required but subject them, where they are found necessary, to a stringent evaluation procedure.

5. Arrest as quickly as possible, the present disastrous over exploitation of groundwater.

6. Arrest and reverse the loss of a lot of good water to pollution and contamination.

7. bring about the necessary changes in water laws needed for all this.

8. Lastly but most importantly, bring about a major change in the way the people think about water. A very special effort is urgently needed. It is much easier to build a dam or drill for groundwater and that is why people take them, but this is what is really needed.

Mr. P.R. Chari

My remit this evening is to speak on regional cooperation and water crisis in South Asia. Let me start by saying that over the last few weeks and months, as all of you would have noticed, public attention has been focussed on energy security and on depleting fossil fuels, but a new consensus seems to be developing on the need for nuclear energy. Now this is important because just about maybe less than a decade ago nuclear energy was a not favoured and in fact it was a bad word. The nuclear industry had collapsed almost all over the world and there were very few countries, India being one of them, China, South Korea which were still committed to nuclear energy. It seems to be important to appreciate the fact that even as far as water, water scarcity and water issues are concerned, exploitation of different sources of water are concerned that there is a kind of a fashion and that the same truths that were there and accepted ten years ago might change, because you will find that these truths, as Robert Frost once wrote, come in out of fashion. With that let me say that it is my belief that water will become an equally scarce commodity in 20-25 years from now on present indications. Everyone of you must have heard Mr. Kaarthikeyan's figures, I don't want to toss around any kind of figures, but what I want to say is, looking to the kind of remit that I have this evening, that this kind of water scarcity could lead to regional, bilateral, intra-state crisis and conflicts. I could also extend this by saying that it could lead to a range of conflicts at the village and also at municipal levels. Here, if I might mention, going back almost half a century to the time when I was recruited into the Indian Administrative Service and we were all Assistant Collectors under training we used to be informed that there are three kind of law and order situations that you will have to face in your career. The first was communal riots, where we were supposed to be absolutely ruthless you didn't look for orders, this was the thinking of fifty years ago. The second was labour disputes where you had to show certain sensitivity and then the third was student unrest. Then there were conditions, because of climatic and other situations, of water scarcity, you could expect riots because people wanted to access canal water and you could also expect that there would be riots in municipal areas because of the fact that drinking water was scarce and people would fight for it. Now this kind of thinking I am talking about was there almost a half a century back. Therefore I am not as sanguine as Mr. Ramaswamy Iyer that we may perhaps not see conflicts over water and I hope he is right, but although I do agree with the broad thrust of his presentation that one has to think in terms of being a little more circumspect about demand and also as far as supply is concerned we should try and exploit all sources of water supply that are available, although one can disagree about what should be the priorities. What I am trying to say is that when we talk about water and water scarcity the problem is not only one of supply and demand but also about water management, conservation, waste reduction and my own view is that there is therefore a link between water scarcity and conflict. Also therefore the need for regional cooperation to mitigate conflict and reduce tension between the states, within the states and even at local levels. The anomaly is and this is a scientific fact, that river flows generally are increasing world-wide because, according to one view, the increased deforestation and urbanization leads to decreased absorption of rainwater in rural areas. But there is also the phenomenon of global warming, which is responsible for larger snow melts and leads to increase in river flows in snow-fed rivers and also to floods. It also leads to receding glaciers. Glaciologists tell us that receding glaciers will aggravate the problem of water scarcity, water pollution. Salination of underground sources of water is also likely as a result of the exploitation of underground resources of water and that highlights the need for an optimum use of the rivers and underground sources and so on.

There is no free lunch here, because of the fact that if we think in terms of harnessing rivers, construct big dams, there are problems which will arise because of rehabilitating oustees, deforestation, maintaining of bio-diversity and therefore I would like to point out that although the problems exist and although the need exists, it seems to me, going back to where I started, that the harnessing of river waters seems to be coming back into fashion. There seems to be a new consensus that could be developing in this regard, with the World Bank now being willing to support such projects.

Now let me turn to South Asia. Crisis and water disputes have both internal and external dimensions. As Mr. Ramswamy Iyer pointed out, we have disputes between states, the Cuavery water dispute, between the States of Karnataka and Tamil Nadu, we also have disputes between the States of Haryana and Punjab over the SYL Canal. As between nations, we had a dispute between Bangladesh and India, now happily resolved over the sharing of the Ganga Waters at Farrakha. We have had river water disputes between Pakistan and India, several of them continuing. There is Baglihar, which is currently referred for adjudication to a neutral expert. Salal happily resolved, the Tulbul Navigation or Wullar Barrage dispute remain unresolved, Kishenganga remains unresolved. We could include here, if one is talking about water disputes in a more general kind of way, the unresolved Sir Creek maritime dispute. As between India and Nepal, we had the dispute over the Mahakali river, there several others which are on the anvil. But the Mahakali river dispute although resolved, the treaty in this regard is yet to become functional.

One can say that the situation in the cases of unresolved disputes seems to be that politics has triumphed over economic and developmental priorities and plays into, as far as South Asia as a region is concerned, the demonisation of India by the smaller nations and also there is this belief in India that as far as the small nations are concerned they are particularly recalcitrant and display a kind of a small neighbour persecution complex. Now India Bhutan water relations on the contrary can be held up as a model. There is the Chukha and the Tala hydro-electric projects that were built by India and the power generated from them is being paid for by India to amortise the costs and the royalties. Indeed I would say that as far as these two projects are concerned, they have totally transformed the economy of Bhutan and that can be held up as a sort of an example of what is possible with regional cooperation.

The legal situation is that the upper riparian should not cause 'substantial harm' to the lower riparian, but what that really means is that both have rights but distribution and regulation of river waters is the heart of the problem. The existing problems between the states of South Asia, particular reference of course to our region are three or four fold. Number one, there is this geographical reality that you have in South Asia, that India is both the upper riparian state, as far as Pakistan and Bangladesh are concerned, and the lower riparian state, as far as Nepal and Bhutan are concerned. So India finds itself, because of its geographical situation, to be something in the middle. Number two, that India has both disputed and cooperative river water arrangements with its neighbours, you have for instance the Indus Water Treaty between India and Pakistan, which is held up in the literature and in most bilateral negotiations etc. as a kind of a model confidence building measure and it has withstood the tensions and conflicts since 1960 when it was signed. We have the Farrakha agreement which can also be held up as a model agreement between two countries. On the other hand we have this reality that we have several Indo-Pakistan water disputes that revolve around Kashmir like Baglihar, Kishenganga, Tulbul/Wullar Barrage disputes. As we all know that Kashmir is a major if not the core issue that lies in contention between India and Pakistan and therefore these water disputes can be linked to the overall political relations between the countries. The fourth point I would like to make over here is that water disputes have also become an aspect of internal politics, particularly something which is very peculiar to South Asia, plebiscitary politics. By plebiscitary politics that an issue is used by the opposition of the day to obstruct any kind of bilateral agreement which is reached by the government of the day, it doesn't matter whether when the opposition was in government might have been agreeable to certain conditions or to have a certain agreement with another country but once the government of the day changes and the party in power is in the opposition then they start denigrating exactly what they wanted to when they were in the government. The politics in Nepal and Bangladesh is an example of this, though we see it in India also.

Now as far as water disputes are concerned, they have in the past been acrimonious, it is my belief that if this water scarcity is not handled sensitively in the manner in which Mr. Ramaswamy Iyer has wisely urged, they could become even more acrimonious. We have experience in India over loss of life in Karnataka and Tamil Nadu over the Cauvery dispute. I must point out that in 1948 India and Pakistan almost came to war when India interrupted water flows at the Husseniwala head-works in Ferozepur district. Nationalistic statements were made in India recently during the Indo-Pak crisis, for instance during the Kargil conflict there were a number of hot-headed remarks and hot headed suggestions made that India should stop all the waters that were flowing into Pakistan and that of course caused a great deal of concern in Pakistan. I don't think it was a particularly wise suggestion because if you stop the water flows into Pakistan from the dams that are here in India it would only result in the flooding of the Indian territory. Anyway these high emotions do come and they could lead inadvertently to conflict because these do become 'lifeline issues'. So far as Pakistan is concerned, except for one, all the other rivers that flow into the Indus, which is in a sense the lifeline of Pakistan, all arise in India. Therefore if people even talk about stopping water that flows into that territory it leads to very high emotions there and there is a conflict potential in that. This points to the need of negotiated settlements and unless discussed, serious disputes are portended by these kind of remarks that are made in moments of high crisis.

Now let me turn to the successes that we have had in South Asia. There are five conditions that are revealed by these successes stories as to what made them successful and why others have failed. These are:

1. The decisive role that was played by the national leadership. Now there is no doubt that in 1960, when the Indus Water Treaty was signed, Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru and President Ayub personally got involved in the resolution of the dispute and the World Bank acted as a mediator. In the 1996 Ganges Water Treaty, you found there was a personal commitment on the part of Inder Kumar Gujral from India's side and Shiekh Hassina from Bangladesh's side, along with Jyoti Basu, the Chief Minster of Bangladesh.

2. As a corollary to the above point, negotiations on politically charged river disputes cannot be left only to technical personnel and diplomats. Otherwise as far as bureaucracies are concerned they can drag on these negotiations forever. 3. We need to understand that all negotiations involve give and take and therefore it is very necessary even before entering negotiations to be clear as to what is going to be our own negotiating position if you want to take the negotiation to fruition.

4. Summit meetings cannot solve complex issues like water disputes. Particularly in the age of round the clock news channels, it limits the scope of open diplomacy but also secret diplomacy because the investigative journalists derive great pleasure in trying to find what is the secret diplomacy going on and then bringing it out into the open, making it far worse than when the secret diplomacy was started. Therefore the via-media I suggest is emissary level negotiations, with access of the emissaries to the highest decision makers, something like what Brijesh Mishra and Tariq Aziz were doing together or something like what earlier R.K. Mishra and Niaz Naik were attempting, before Mr. R.K. Mishra's cover was blown. So this is something which I feel is workable if one wants to be serious about resolving water disputes. Compromises that are of course made and decided upon by the political leadership can be inked in summits.

5. It seems that bilateral cooperation is easier than regional negotiations. Involvement of more than two countries makes things complicated.

Let me conclude by urging the need to appreciate that a water crisis looms ahead and it requires a much greater national attention to address problems of supply, ensure water quality, bring about conservation, use the pricing mechanism to try and control demand and all these issues in totality are linked to good governance. But we also need to appreciate the need for internal and regional cooperation to harness rivers for mutual benefits. I would like to draw attention to negotiating an extended Indus Water Treaty, an Indus Water Treaty II.

Dr. Subhash Chander:

I am focussing my talk on fresh water, which is not only a source of life but also a source of culture. Think of what the city of Benaras or the total cultural ethos of Bangladesh would be without water? What are the characteristics of water? One of the characteristics of water is its variable availability. Usually when people talk about resources they talk about fixed quantities but water is a resource which varies from year to year, from season to season and from place to place and therefore you are required to plan for this resource in a different fashion. It needs development to meet the demand, if however you can bring down the demand its better because as Mr. Iyer said, this resource is finite. In India there is an inter-annual variability and when we talk about inter-annual variability then average figures like 1100 BCM have no meaning because in some years the usable water is as low as 500 to 600 BCM and in other years it maybe as high as 2000 BCM. So there will always be shortages. This is a problem that you have to tackle on a day to day basis.

We get all this water in a period of about 90 days and I some times wonder how people imagine that we can supply it throughout the year without some kind of conservation and storage.

The per capita availability is something in the order of 1000 cubic metres per year, so we are already, as per global standards, in a state of scarcity. So it is important that we realise that there is a problem.

This scarcity is going to increase due to increasing population, increasing variability due to climate change as areas which dry will get drier, ageing water infrastructure which limits options and we are not investing money into modernizing this infrastructure due to all the activism against it. This is a complex problem which requires for us to have a mechanism to get a solution as one solution cannot be there for the whole of India.

There is a conflict between the demands for water between people, cities, agriculture and environment. The issue is how a community can cope with variability, scarcity and conflict. The community needs sustainable water development for its use and sustainability requires that the development is designed and managed to contribute to the objectives of the community, meeting current and future needs, maintaining ecological, environmental and hydrological integrity. These are the issues which will help you find a solution.

The sustainability also requires limiting environmental and human uses. Simply because water is there does not mean that you use all of it and refer to the rest as waste, e.g. the water that is going into the sea which also performs important functions like developing deltas, biotic communities, fisheries and is also being used by other people but just because the people in the cities don't get to use it therefore it is termed as waste. I feel nothing is waste and is merely a trade off. One should limit pollution to maintain the sociological, cultural and ecological uses dependant on the resource. The people involved in polluting water should not be allowed to do so. Sustainability also requires that there should be damage minimization and recovery post disaster like floods and droughts. Therefore the key factors that I have mentioned are vision of the community, availability on use, limiting pollution, maintaining hydrological, ecological and environmental integrity recovery from extreme events like floods and droughts and demand management.

The solution for this is adaptive management, that is manage what is available for that particular year using the latest technology, in order to find out how much water in order to allocate it. There is no option but to go for higher technology for the management of water based on online technology or near online information due to the variability, changing societal objectives and because of the limited knowledge of ecological requirement of environmental flows which will require monitoring of environmental outcomes. There is a group of scientists who have written in the journal Current Science that if you are using water for consumptive use which gets evaporated and gives you agricultural produce and start using more of it, you may impact the monsoon because the salinity in the Bay of Bengal is going to decrease. Therefore one cannot use all the water available and thus requirements have to be limited and usage has to be continuously monitored. This is what adaptive management is all about.

There is a three year case-study performed by A.P. to look at air and water resources. They have gone for adaptive management, which requires a shared vision to ensure a secure water future for the people of Andhra Pradesh, to provide economic development, promote agricultural industry and natural ecosystems. Under availability and use they have tried to see what is the long-term average surface flows and dynamic recharge. Short term solutions like rain-water harvesting, minor and medium irrigation projects and water reuse etc. are also there.

Long term solutions are essentially going to be conservation of an additional 200 to 300 BCM of water. How we are going to do it is something we have to start thinking about right now because it takes 15 to 20 years before you can conserve and use that amount of water.

About pollution in A.P. they are taking steps to protect water sources, natural channel network leading to water bodies from dumping of waste and contamination of water bodies. They are making laws for the same and are looking to implement the 'polluter pays' principle for clean up. Ecological and environmental integrity involves maintenance of geomorphology, groundwater levels and wetlands because they are linkages to biodiversity, river corridors and estuaries and other coastal resources.

They are limiting water extraction for domestic needs, drinking water supplies, irrigation, industry and power generation, without jeopardising future use. Reusing of water is one of the strategies that they are using. The best water is used for drinking, while reuse is becoming the norm for industries.

They are also thinking about the environmental aspect and are providing for the maintenance of healthy aquatic eco-systems by providing environmental flows and adopting the precautionary principle.

I think the most important aspect is hydrological integrity. This is achieved through impact assessment of obstructions and regulations on downstream flows. This has to be done very meticulously taking into account seasons, pollution loads, natural regeneration capacities, sustainability of aquatic and associated eco-systems, quality standards, environmental and human uses. Impact assessment requires extremely specialised tools for predicting expected future such as computer based interactive optimization and simulation models with GISM interface, specialised programmes and techniques of analysis. Once you have the future scenario then you have multi-disciplinary teams which are responsible for the evaluation of plans, integrating technology, ecology, social and political infrastructure and identifying trade-offs.

I am very hopeful that the civil society has woken up to the problem of water and something good will emerge from this. There is technology to devise a solution, there are mechanisms by which various people can sit across the table and take decisions which are acceptable, durable and which can help to prevent conflicts.

Clarifications


Mr. Ramaswamy Iyer

I wanted to supplement what Mr. Chari said. He mentioned some success stories and mentioned the factors involved. There is one more factor, namely 'Track Two' initiatives, that is talks at a non-official level outside the government. We had done some extensive work on this between India and Bangladesh about the sharing of the water of the Ganges, which was of no practical significance so long as the political relations were bad but when the political climate changed there was body of work available which was very useful and the same has been acknowledged by the Indian government as well as the Bangladeshi government. Similarly in case of the Cauvery dispute, there are a group of people who are bringing together the farmers of Tamil Nadu and Karnataka promoting goodwill and though it has not solved the problem, the generation of goodwill has been very remarkable.

Questions and Answers

Question: Nothing was said about the option to desalination as a means of producing supplementary fresh water?

Mr. Kaarthikeyan

I learn that Desalination has been approved by the Government of India for the Tamil Nadu government. There is a global tender for the same. The problem with regard to it as an option is that it is too expensive. The Gulf countries can use this option due to the large amount of oil money that they have. However this option will have to be explored as the scarcity of water has reached a critical stage, especially in South India.

Dr. Subhash Chandra Desalination is a solution if you require small amounts of water. There exists a certain indigenous technology for the same and they are in the process of setting up a plant in a coastal on an experimental basis to test the same. In another twenty years this will be an economically viable alternative source of water for cities near the coast.

Question: As a common citizen of the city I would like to know what is being done about supplying water to the cities? What is the status of the interlinking of rivers project?

Mr. Kaarthikeyan

We were unfortunately not able to get a speaker from the water supply department of Delhi to speak to us today. On the issue of interlinking, the then Prime Minister Mr. Vajpayee made a statement in the parliament that they would go for interlinking of rivers, which was immediately supported by Mrs. Sonia Gandhi as the then leader of the opposition. There was a public interest litigation before the Supreme Court to ensure that the project was implemented. The government made a commitment to the Supreme Court that the project would be completed in fifteen years. Dr. Abdul Kalam in his very first inaugural address to the country on assuming the august office of the President of the nation said that interlinking of rivers has to be implemented, as otherwise there will be flooding in some parts of the country and droughts in some other parts. As for sometime after the UPA Government took charge nothing was taking place on this front, I called on the Prime Minister and asked him whether his Government believed in the project. To that he replied that he and his government firmly believed in the project of interlinking of rivers they did believe in it and one agreement in this regard had already been signed between the states of UP and MP. This project is not proceeding on the same pace as the Golden Quadrilateral Project, mainly due to the reluctance of some states, whose consent is required as water is a State subject in the Constitution. One option is to go in for connecting Canal waterways, as the same would fall in the concurrent list of the Constitution and the consent of the states would not be required. However, sooner or later the project has to be implemented, to prevent a great disaster to the nation.

Dr. Subhash Chander

I have examined most of the proposals for interlinking since I am on the advisory committee for the same and the question that arises is, where is the water? I published a paper in the journal of hydrology in 2004, where I said there should be a criteria where inter-basin transfer can occur and the first criteria was that when you require water in one place, there should be surplus water available at the same time in another basin. Has hydrological analysis been performed as to ascertain whether there are basins where surplus water exists at the time when the water is needed by the water scarce basin? Unless you do this kind of rigorous analysis in order to ascertain the viability of these schemes it does not make sense to undertake them. All the data with regard to this project is not in the public domain and is not transparent. However, everything should be scientifically data-based.

Question: Can't this movie that has just been screened be shown in schools so that young children get educated about the harmful effects of aerated drinks?

Umesh Agarwal

Very soon we will be organizing the screenings of this movie in Universities and schools all over India.

Question: Water flow as per the National Commission was 1953 BCM; however we then say that usable water is 690 BCM. Where does the remaining water go?

Dr. Subhash Chander

Before you are able to use water you have to develop it. Therefore you need to have site where you can store it. The unused water flows into the sea.

Observation

We will not be able to solve the problem of water scarcity with the same mindset with which we created them. A lot of myths have been created in this regard and they should be dispelled. The only way of dealing with this issue is by adopting a disaggregated approach towards it and not an integrated approach. A balance between micro solutions and macro solutions is required.

Observation

I would like to draw your attention to the Indus Water Treaty. It has started having a negative effect on Kashmir. Kashmir has to be compensated for the losses it is undergoing due to this treaty.

   
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